The Coach Approach Podcast

Welcome to the Coach Approach Ministries Podcast! Coaching is a skillset and a mindset that helps people find focus, discover options and take action. At CAM, we train the very best Christian coaches in the world, and over the last decade, we've trained well over a fifteen hundred coaches. Through this podcast, we want to share insights from the Coaching Community and help you to develop a broader understanding of coaching. You can find out more about us at and sign up for our proven coach training.
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Aug 22, 2019
Brian interviews Brian Tracy on how to lead as a coach. Brian Tracy planted the Evangel Assembly church 24 years ago. He has a multiple staff, including a worship/youth pastor, guest services pastor, children's outreach, office manager, and a part-time assistant children's program. The whole staff is trained in coaching. 
Aug 15, 2019

Brian and Chad talk about coaching change, transition, and transformation.

Aug 8, 2019
Brian interviews Linda Miller on How to Give Feedback. Linda has worked for the last 18 years with the Ken Blanchard Companies as their Global Liaison for Coaching. She is one of the founding partners with CAM.
How to Give Feedback
  • S - Situation
  • B -Behavior
  • I  - Impact
  • N - Next Steps (Moving forward)
Aug 1, 2019

Brian and Chad discuss four types of coaching practices.

1. Life

2. Leadership

3. Ministry

4. Missional

Jul 25, 2019

Michael Cheuk, editor of Christian Coaching Magazine,, interviews Scott Eblin about his 3rd edition of The Next Level and the benefits of his Life GPS worksheet. 

You can gain full access to Christian Coaching Magazine by paying $15 per year. Your subscription helps with the cost of the production of the magazine and supporting Michael as he creates a great interview each month.


Jul 18, 2019

While standards and boundaries sound boring, this podcast is anything but that!

Standards are personal expectations you have for yourself. Everyone has standards about such things as appearance, mates, vehicles, organization, and so on. Standards can be too high or too low. This can cause conflict.

Boundaries are what we allow other people to do to us or around us. Boundaries have to be expressed and enforced. Not everyone is going to like your boundaries.

Chad and Brian break these down and discuss how they interact.

Jul 11, 2019

Travis Guse is a certified strength coach. Travis talks about how his journey came through strengths and how he uses strengths in his coaching. You can find out more about Travis at

Jul 4, 2019

Chad and Brian take a break from talking about coaching to talking about something they both have in common -- growing up rural and how that shaped their perspective.

Jun 28, 2019

Bob is the Director of Equipping and Spiritual Formation for Ecclesia. or

“Content-rich” coaching is when you know how to do/have done what the client is doing.

  • For younger leaders suffering from all clarity, no perspective. They aren't aware of what they shouldn't be doing and ought to be doing. 
  • For older leaders with no clarity and all perspective. They see all the trees and it becomes incapacitating. They can't bring it to a focus. 
  • For those with specific questions about ministry. Protect the boundaries of the coaching relationship and step into that place of "tell me what to do." 
Jun 20, 2019

Without diving deep into the sport of professional basketball, Brian and Chad take a look at the lessons we can learn from Steve Kerr, the head coach of the Golden State Warriors, who have won three championships in five years. Kerr doesn't yell or pace the sidelines. He listens and observes much more than he speaks. He creates an open and trusting atmosphere among some of the highest paid and talented athletes in the world. There is much we can learn from Steve Kerr and apply to our coaching and leadership.

Jun 13, 2019
Jane Creswell, MCC is a Co-founder of Coach Approach Ministries.
She spends most of her time working with corporations to create a coaching culture but her covert mission is to bring Christ in those companies.
Under Coaching Presence
  1. Coach partners with the client by supporting the client to choose what happens in the session.
  2. Coach partners with the client by inviting the client to respond in any way to the coach’s contributions and accepts the client’s response.
  3. Coach partners with the client by playing back the client’s expressed possibilities for the client to choose from.
  4. Coach partners with the client by encouraging the client to formulate his or her own learning.
Jun 6, 2019

Triple Loop Learning was discovered by Chris Argyris, a Harvard Professor. We discovered it in Robert Hargrove's book, Masterful Coaching.

The three loops are often called by different names, but one set of names are:

1. Action

2. Strategy

3. Identity

May 30, 2019
PCC Quality Coaching is Your Next Step.
Here are four cornerstone elements that support PCC level coaching:
  1. PCC coaches have a balance between focus and exploration. (ACC coaches typically go one way or the other)
  2. PCC coaches are easy to talk to. (not judgmental, conversational, no agenda)
  3. PCC coaches create new awareness. (not "what are your options", creativity, risks, stimulant to client thinking)
  4. PCC coaches are really good at designing actions (ACC coaches typically only identify actions)
May 23, 2019

Terry Gurno is the CEO of Terry Gurno and Influence. He is an Executive Coach, Trainer, Author, and Leadership Artist. Terry shares his journey from the pastorate to being CEO of a company to starting his own coaching business. There are lots of learnings along the way.

May 16, 2019

Lots of people like podcasts about questions, but there is one skill that is more important - listening. In this podcast, Brian and Chad discuss how to be better listeners.

May 9, 2019
Linda Miller has been with the Ken Blanchard Companies for 18 years! She is their Global Liaison for Coaching. She was also a founding partner with CAM. She shows us how to build trust in any situation.
You can build trust in four areas:
  • Able
  • Believable
  • Connected
  • Dependable
May 2, 2019

Brian and Chad approach the issue of questions from a different angle. What are some questions you should NEVER ask?

  • Looking to the past - What have you got so far? What have you tried so far?
  • Prescriptive - Have you ever thought about...
  • Judged - Why did you do that? How stupid are you? Really? 
  • Collecting information already discovered - Have you thought about anything that you could do about that?
  • Bad timing - What could you do about that? (at the beginning) What about this is really important? (at the end)
Apr 25, 2019
This week we are going to feature an interview recorded for Christian Coaching Magazine by Michael Cheuk. In this interview, Michael interviews Dr. Chris Gambill about his experience with the Workplace "Big 5" Profile. He talks about what the Big 5 Profile is, and how a coach should use it. 
Also, as a note, if you're interested in subscribing to Christian Coaching Magazine, you can do so by going to and paying $15 per year, which not only gives you access to amazing articles on coaching but also helps to support Michael in bringing added value such as this interview.
Apr 18, 2019

Often our coaching may feel closer to counseling as our clients show a need for an internal shift. Brian and Chad discuss the distinctions of counseling and coaching and how coaching often is the right approach.

Apr 11, 2019

Grace Dyson started coaching during her corporate years. She talks about how she positioned herself within the company as a coach, used coaching in her leadership style, and how she prepared herself to leave corporate and become a full-time coach.

Her podcast is The Parent as Career Coach.

Apr 4, 2019

After eight years of coaching, Brian decided to look at his coaching hours log to see where his clients came from. With 90 unique clients, here are some observations.

  • Not one client came from my website, reading my blog, or social media. Not one. Ever.
  • My first twenty clients came from wherever I could find them.
  • Eight of my first twenty clients were the key to all the rest of my clients.
  • Working these networks produced multiple clients all at once.

Chad and Brian discuss all the results on today's podcast.

Based on a blogpost found here.

Mar 28, 2019
Angie Ward is an award-winning regular contributor to Christianity Today leadership publications. She is a highly regarded teacher and collaborative leader with experience in church, parachurch, and Christian higher education contexts. She holds a Ph.D. in Ministry Leadership from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.
Angie joins the podcast to talk about exploring deeply held assumptions. This is where the conflict really occurs.
3 levels of organizational culture - Assumptions are below the water.
  1. Artifacts
  2. Espoused vallues
  3. Underlying Assumptions
Where can people find Angie? @indyaward,, church chat podcast
Mar 21, 2019

Brian and Chad discuss the GROW model for coaching and walk through each step. This is a deeper dive than you might have already taken.

  1. Goals (Future)
  2. Reality (Present)
  3. Options (What's possible? Discerning)
  4. Who, What, When, Will to do it (Designing Actions)
Mar 14, 2019
Jane Creswell, Co-founder of Coach Approach Ministries, joins the podcast to share her insights on the new PCC markers provided by the International Coach Federation.
Previous Jane Creswell podcasts
#086 Learn Group Coaching from a Pioneer
#017 A Missionary to the Corporate World
#018 Introducing Coaching Into a Fortune 500 Company
Mar 7, 2019

Chad shares his honest opinion about the popular Enneagram assessment. There are things he likes. There are things he doesn't. Your opinion may be different.

  1. The specific descriptions of human personality is true
  2. Overall framework of human personality is not true
  3. There is no validity backing it up
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